http://www.olivermeech.co.uk en-gb olivermeech.co.uk 2010-9-15T00:00:00Z olivermeech.co.uk http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#75532 Wow. Taking 2 magic shows to the Edinburgh Festival was intense. It was exhillarating and exhausting in equal measure. Here are 10 things I learned along the way 1 Some people love magic even more than I do.I met some amazingly dedicated magic enthusiasts whod been to up to 10 magic shows over a couple of days. Thats a lot even for me. But its great to see people with a love for our art. 2 Doves are anything but silent.When I wasnt doing my oneman show I had the pleasure of performing with 2 other lovely magicians James Pritchard and Oliver Tabor. Olivers a dove magician so our 8hour drive oop north was accompanied by the sound of amorous doves hooting away. Yet strangely when theyre on stage they remain completely silent. Still it was cool to have some feathery friends joining us on our adventure. 3 When you have to carry your act up and down hills every day you reconsider how essential each of your props are.My large hoolahoopandshowercurtain portable changing room lasted all of one... 2010-9-15 10:41:37 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#60724 Heres a quick recap of what Ive been up to since September deep breath Performed caberet at the Hot August Fringe and closeup at the International Magic Competition. Sessioned at the Session Convention magiced in Michelinstarred restaurant and country manors lectured in Liverpool almost finished writing Plot Twists performed in West End theatres braved the stage in comedy clubs and prepared for the final of the Magic Circle CloseUp Competition. Oh and last but not least got married to the lovely Ruth. I even vanished her at the end of the ceremony. No really Phew Im exausted just remembering it Now were back up to date Ill do my best to blog more regularly and keep you up to date with my magical manoeuvres. 2010-3-17 12:17:22 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#60723 Its been a few months since I last blogged but I havent been slacking. In fact quite the opposite Ive been performing more than ever which has left me with less time to type. Sooo to keep you lovely peeps up to date I thought Id share some of the updates I write for my newsletter here in this blog. Stay tuned... 2010-3-17 12:11:29 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#48327 Peter Duffie has just given my 5 for 1635 ebooks a good review in MAGIC magazine the current FISM issue. You can read his whole review of each book there but he finishes off by saying You wont regret purchasing any of them. So to purchase any of them click here. 2009-9-7 17:58:13 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#45711 Matthew Field the Editor has just reviewed my 5 for 1635 ebooks. Here are some highlights the full reviews in the August issue Member Oliver Meech is an energetic young magician whose book The Plot Thickens I favourably reviewed last month... The tricks are...often reminiscent of Paul Harris and Jay Sankey... Theres a great deal of imagination at work here...at 1635 the booklets are a bargain Get your hands on the ebooks here. 2009-7-28 09:45:26 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#45315 A second good review for my new ebooks. Wil from Magic Bunny reviewed the Stage and Kids ebooks from my 5 for 1635 series. Here are some highlights read the full review which covers individual effects here 910After hearing so much great stuff about The Plot Thickens I had to get hold of a couple of Olivers ebooks and I was not disappointed. The two ebooks I have are brimming with great ideas and presentations.Overall I got so much out of these ebooks not just in terms of effects I can use and adapt but from an inspirational point of view.Bottom line for 1635 you cant go wrong. I defy you not to get something from these great ebooks. For the full list of effects and to get your copy click here. 2009-7-21 15:25:06 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#44834 Mylovelyassistant.com has just posted a good review of The Plot Thickens. Here are a few extracts the full review can be found here Rating 45 stars. a firestarterIt just might jumpstart your imaginationAt about 1 a trick this book is a fun diversion and nice investment if youre looking for something a little different. Get your copy here. 2009-7-13 12:05:41 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#44565 Here are some highlights from Tom Frames Genii Online review full version here 5 for 1635 Kids Ebook by Oliver Meech1635 7.0219 pagesAvailable at httpwww.olivermeech.co.uk FronkeyThis is Mr. Meechs beastly version of the Split Thought card effectIts boisterous barnyard fun for everyone. I like it. Achoo...its repellant repugnant revolting and vile and Im ashamed to admit that my profoundly disturbed inner child likes it. Mmm...Laces...instead of ditching the dirty work you simply eat it. I like it. Well Blow Me AdaptedThese are good ideas...I like it. Lego Go GoThe effect is quick easy to understand and should appeal to the kiddies. I like it. ...these effects invite lots of audience participation and they should entertain and mystify the younguns. Recommended. Get your copy here. 2009-7-8 11:50:49 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#44520 Tom Frame just reviewed 5 for 1635 Coffee for Genii Online. Here are some highlights you can read the full review here5 for 1635 Coffee Ebook by Oliver Meech16357.02.19 pages.Available at httpwww.olivermeech.co.uk Oliver Meech the creative dynamo who brought us The Plot Thickens reviewed 22109 is back with a series of themed ebooks. Unlike the majority of alleged creators who take the cheap and cheesy route of shooting a homemade video and selling it for 20.00 Mr. Meech earns my eternal respect for actually sitting down and writing these books. And at 1635 a pop the price is peachy....He does a good job of teaching the material and he credits the individuals whose prior works have inspired him. Each effect includes additional thoughts or variations. ...if novel plots are your cup of tea so to speak I think youll be pleased. I really like the way Mr. Meech thinks. These effects are designed to be performed in a coffee shop or in your kitchen using common items....Recommended. Get y... 2009-7-7 16:48:21 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#44140 The Magic Circular official magazine of The Magic Circle just reviewed The Plot Thickens. Check out the July edition for the full review. Heres how it ends It is refreshing to see a young magician Im judging Olivers age by his photo in the book approach magic from an original direction and the book is highly recommended. Get your copy here. 2009-6-30 18:05:06 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#42286 The first three releases in my new 5 For 1635 ebook series are now available. Theyre called 5 For 1635 Coffee 5 For 1635 Kids and 5 For 1635 Stage.So in keeping with the 5 concept here are 5 good reasons to buy them Each one contains five fresh tricks. Theyre themed so you can buy ebooks to fit your specific needs. Since theyre downloads theres no need to wait for the postie. Theyll tide you over until Plot Twists is released. Last but not least theyre a mere fiver each. Thats a paltry pound a trick Get your copies here. 2009-5-26 17:05:28 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#41869 Jamie D. Grant is the man responsible for the Magic Friday reviews on The Magic Cafe and Magician magazine. Rather than conventional reviews he tries out other peoples material in the real world. This week he performed Unwritten from The Plot Thickens. Here are some of his thoughts on it youll find the whole thing hereThis is one of those tricks that just helps solidify you as a magician as opposed to someone who knows some magic tricksAnd it played out really well on Friday. The great thing about it is that its not really a trick in itself. Its just a magical moment that plays out after something else youve done.People laughed at the opening premise and the beginning is a great way to introduce everythingltintroducing the contractgt is a really funny bit and gets the energy going right off the top.Best Lines lti.e. reactionsgtDid I sign that I signed that didnt IIts always amazing to see someone doubt themselves.Get outta here LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Its a really fun bitMy Rating 8.510. I... 2009-5-19 15:07:51 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#41868 Another month another review for the The Plot Thickens. This time from Wayne Kawamoto at About.comMagic and Illusion. Here are a few quotes read the full review hereThe Plot Thickens by Oliver MeechRating 4.55 stars.Refreshingly differentthis one is a bargainMany of the effects are commercial and appropriate for professional strolling sets. And overall the effects are not overly difficult to learn and perform. The text is fun to read and there are lots of pictures throughout...Meech offers a worthy and fun read that will stimulate your creativity. I recommend this one. Get your copy here. 2009-5-19 15:05:05 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#41098 Jeff Stone who publishes the excellent Stone Cold Magic Magazine every month has reviewed the The Plot Thickens for the current issue. To check out the whole review sign up to his online magazine. After all you can never have too much free magic. Here are some highlightsThe Plot Thickens by Oliver Meech Oliver Meechs book is a top quality productionI think you should buy this book. The effects are great and the methods are even better... The whole production is very thoughtful and thought provoking and its clear he took the time to develop this properly. He also does an excellent job with credits... There are just a ton of great ideas in this book and the writing style and thinking is just plain different from a lot of what we see today in the magic market. Its worth picking up just for that. DEFINITE GEM Get your copy here. 2009-5-5 16:45:19 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#37617 MAGIC magazine has just reviewed The Plot Thickens in its March issue. Peter Duffie gave the it the thumbs up in the following review The Plot Thickens Offbeat closeup and mentalism plots abound in Oliver Meechs first book. There are over twenty routines and ideas in The Plot Thickens which is divided into four sections Stuff with Cards Stuff with Coins Stuff with the Mind and a miscellaneous chapter. None of the tricks requires difficult sleight of hand. In fact most of them are sleightless. The opening effect Invisible Man is a typical example of the lateral thinking that Meech employs. In it you make one spectator invisible so another spectator can look through the invisible persons body and see which card was selected. In Telling Your Ace From Your Elbow you show a strange tattoo on your arm and you claim that you found the design in an old book about predicting the future. After a card has been selected you bend your arm and the tattoo transforms into the name of the chosen ca... 2009-3-4 14:57:04 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#37198 Tom Frame just reviewed The Plot Thickens for Genii Online. Since its quite long here are a few highlights you can read the full review on the Genii Forum The Plot Thickens Book by Oliver Meech 16312.4921.53 SampH 8.25 x 11.75 perfect bound with glossy cover 81 pages 86 photosAvailable at httpstores.lulu.comolivermeech Oliver Meech is a very clever and wildly creative young man from Londonboy oh boy Mr. Meech has some tasty new plots in store for youHe possesses a cheeky sense of humor which he doles out at appropriate times. He includes a handy chart for converting British terms to their American equivalents. He provides his participants with names that relate to the plot and our job is to discover the nature of that relationship. Goofy fun stuff like that The book is laid out well and I enjoy the novelty of it being oversized I thoroughly enjoyed The Plot Thickens and Im very impressed with Mr. Meechs creativity. Buy this bookHighly Recommended. 2009-2-24 14:57:54 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#36833 Im currently splitting my time between sorting stuff for my magic and sorting stuff for my wedding. If Im not careful Ill get my wires crossed and end up marrying Eugene Burger not that he wouldnt make an ideal husband. 2009-2-17 15:25:48 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#36832 Speaking of meeting fellow magi Im looking to do some lectures in the coming months. Itll be a great chance to showcase my material both old and new go into more detail about my approach to magic and get everyone involved in a short workshop on creating your own magic. If youd like to see me at your club wherever it may be just send me the contact details of your club secretary or even better have them drop me an email at oliverolivermeech.co.uk. Hopefully Ill see some of you in person soon 2009-2-17 15:24:47 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#36831 Chris Christo a very nice chap from Cyprus recently sent me an email asking if I was working on any stagecabaret effects or childrens magic. I thought that some of you might also be wondering the same thing so with his permission Ive reprinted my response below Interesting question. I dont usually aim to create a specific type of magic I just come up with loads of random ideas and then dig through them afterwards to see whats of value So I have come up with some stage and kids show stuff along the way. Ive mainly shared my close up creations so far for two reasons. One I mainly perform closeup so I have more of a chance to test my closeup creations. And two more magicians tend to be interested in close up rather than stagekids stuff.Having said that in future Id like to perform more caberet stuff and collect my noncloseup stuff together into a bookdvd. Im currently focussing on getting my second magic book out hopefully by summer but after that Ill have a dig through my list of cre... 2009-2-17 15:23:37 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#36830 Im applying to rejoin the Magic Circle after an 8 year absence due to uni and working long hours. In the UK spectators always ask if youre a member so Im really looking forward to answering Yes In order to join you have to show a reasonable level of magical aptitude. To do this Ive chosen to submit a thesis. Its called Six Card Repeat As A Medical Sedative. Not really Ill be submitting The Plot Thickens natch. I wonder how the Circle has changed in the intervening years drop me an email if you can enlighten me Oh and if you see me looking like a lost newbie in the Circle bar please come up and say Hi. I always enjoy meeting fellow magi. 2009-2-17 15:22:38 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#35306 Gary Jones seasoned pro and cunning creator check out his site here just gave The Plot Thickens a rather spiffing review on magicbunny The Plot Thickens by Oliver Meech. Oliver Meech was a name new to me I only found out about his magic through the excellent Magic Bunny forum. Oliver was offering his newsletter free of charge and I took the bait but I have to say it was one of the best moves Ive made in magic for a long while. Oliver is young and his ideaseffects are fresh and some are really off the wall. The book is a soft cover book with 81 pages it contains a total of 22 effects raging from cards coins mental stuff and with most other things you may have lying around. I found the Introduction to the book very interesting it really gives the reader a good insight to Oliver the person and his philosophy on magic. To give you some idea of what I mean in the Introduction he says the book contains no Ace Assembly no Coins Across no Matrix no Cups and Balls no Sponge Balls no Professor... 2009-1-21 11:31:02 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#34982 I first posted this idea on my newsletter then Andi Gladwin reposted it on his Clog then Ellusionist reprinted it on their blog January 12 post then other magicians posted about it on their forum. Ive unleashed a monster In case youve missed it Ive reprinted it below. Btw as Joe Hadsall discovered if you get a seemingly unpromising article its worth sticking with it. It should eventually lead to an original magic idea OK drumroll please. So I can finally reveal the powerful creativity tool I promised you last fortnight. Ladies and Gentlemen I give you.......Wikipedia. No wait come back Ill explain. A classic technique of creativity is Random Word stimulation. In other words you look up a random word in the dictionary and try and apply it to whatever youre thinking about. It sounds weird but it works because it breaks you out of logical thinking and forces you to make new associations which leads to original thinking. The trouble is some words like the are less useful than nouns like ... 2009-1-14 09:52:04 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#34586 Just received another review of The Plot Thickens this time from Shane at Online Visions The Plot Thickens book by Oliver MeechSuggested Retail USD21.53BPS16312.49Available direct from Oliver Meech In a Blink 10 Out of 10 The Plot Thickens a book by Oliver Meech is an assembly of new themes using old techniques that are refreshing in their uniqueness and easy in their execution a combination that will rock spectators on their heels. But Ive thought that kind of thing about Meechs work for years since he started appearing on this site. Meech is without a doubt one of my favorite thinkers bar none. Check out some of his stuff around the place and youll see what I mean. Meech you see is a rare breed. He seems to care less about method than effect. If he can come up with a brand new appearance from a spectators standpoint of a basic coin switch hell do it rather than expend the energy to try to develop a working that is in todays marketplace more new than improved. I think thats wh... 2009-1-6 13:02:03 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#34080 Just a quick note to say Merry Christmas I hope you have an amazing in both senses of the word time over the festive season. Youll see lots more magic from me in the new year. Until then... Oliver 2008-12-22 14:55:28 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#33615 If you want to receive The Plot Thickens in time for Christmas then you need to order very soon. You can find the last order dates for your country here. Of course you could also accidentally forward this newsletter to your friends and family in an unsubtle hint of what to get you. Just think after youve feasted on turkey you can feased on plots Order The Plot Thickens now. 2008-12-10 15:29:12 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#32372 This appears on Magicweek in the Reviews section The Plot ThickensOliver Meech 87 large format pages. 86 photos. Perfect bound with a glossy cover. Reviewed by Rob James. In the introduction to The Plot Thickens the author quotes Michael Close as saying that it would be useful for us all if we had a temporary ban on releasing new methods for overexposed plots. It is a sad truth that the magic market is flooded on an almost daily basis with new tricks and DVDs many of which are just recycling the same ideas. Worse still is the recent phenomenon of the overhyped one trick DVD presented by a trendy looking 20something and devoid of anything remotely creative or particularly useful sold for 1631020. All these new products arrive with a huge fanfare and fireworks display only to be crushed and land filled a couple of months later when they are no longer flavour of the month. While all this has been going on Oliver Meech has been quietly working away on this his first book yes ... 2008-11-14 15:59:00 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#32176 Ive just received another great review of my book The Plot Thickens. Mark Leveridge editor of Magicseen Europes number 1 magic magazine had this to say about it The Plot Thickens by Oliver Meech At a British Ring Convention in the 1980s I was particularly struck by the material in a lecture by close upper Bob Ostin. His plots were simple his methods equally so and all of his magic used everyday objects or things that you could easily make yourself. For me at the time it was the perfect lecture as it provided all manner of great magic that I could immediately make up and do. As I read this first of two projected books by Oliver Meech I was reminded of those Bob Ostin creations. Oliver has deliberately concentrated on coming up with fresh plots hence the title of the book and the 22 that he provides between the covers of this A4 size 80 odd page book are at times quirky but on all occasions fresh and interesting. His methods are incredibly practical. Just about the most difficult ... 2008-11-10 16:39:59 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#30551 Draculas surviving sunlight thats so unbelievable This is a typical indignant comment from a moviegoer who at the same time is quite willing to accept the existence of an immortal shapeshifting Prince of Darkness who sucks blood through hollow fangs until he is killed by a stake through the heart. What makes the difference between indignation and acceptance Internal logic. As all science fiction writers know people are quite willing to accept any alternative reality as long as two conditions are satisfied The rules that govern the reality are stated including exceptions to the rule. The rules are consistently followed. Thats all there is too it. Lets take Superman as an example. The rules state that he has xray vision and icycold breath. He can fly like a bird and displays superhuman strength except when he is in the presence of kryptonite which interferes with his powers. As long as these rules and their exceptions are followed then everyone accepts the alternati... 2008-10-5 13:24:03 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#30366 Actually I have no idea what the initials RSS stand for but I do know what they mean If you click on the little red and green icon at the bottom of this page that says RSS 2.0 then you can set up an RSS feed which means youll never miss another knowledgenugget from this blog. After all its a Rich Secret Source a Readable Sorcery Scribble a Rarely Seen Selection a R ok Ill stop there. 2008-9-30 16:34:49 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#30160 As you may have noticed from tother pages of my site Ive just published my first book of original magic tricks called The Plot Thickens. Ive sent copies to the main magic mags so reviews should be coming out soon. In the meantime Tim Trono creator of the excellent foreheadslapping whydidntIthinkofthat effect Branded had a look at my book and posted this on the the magic cafe forum If you have not seen Olivers book The Plot Thickens then buy it. Hes got some great ideas. I have been crazy busy lately but am going through it and playing with some of the many excellent ideas. Get your very own copy of The Plot Thickens. The full thread in which his comment appeared can be found here. 2008-9-25 10:25:57 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#29490 My colleague Karrie just found a website which I just have to share. If you like Batman and gadgets and lets face it what magician doesnt youll love it. Check out www.hiddenpassageway.com Bookcases concealing doors lifting staircases tables that spilt to reveal inner sections. You name it they do it Now if only they made a Batmobile to go in the garage... 2008-9-9 18:06:21 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#27782 Ian Rowland concludes in The Full Facts Book of Cold Reading a stunningly comprehensive book that the human mind is...next to hopeless at accurately describing past experience. He further notes the following Accurate recall is prone to at least four kinds of contamination. Generally speaking people are not very good at observing things very accurately what little they observe well they are not very good at remembering very accurately what little they remember well they are not very good at describing very accurately to others and what little they describe well they tend to simplify greatly Given this damning assessment of our memory capabilities it follows that keeping tricks slogan simple as popularised by Michael Ammar is hugely important. It has often been noted that spectators remember the end of tricks and that if you have fifty tricks with the same ending you have one trick whilst if you have one trick with fifty endings yo... 2008-8-1 17:17:05 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#25397 Total Recall Why do I need to think about memory As long as Im magical and entertaining then the spectators will remember me and my magic. This belief is often held by magicians but it is not entirely true. They may well remember their uncle pulling a coin out of their ear as a child long after they have forgotten about a major illusionist even though the latter may have been objectively more magical and more entertaining. Before we get into what makes a performance memorable lets look at why the study of memory is so important for magicians. I would go so far as to make the following claim The memory of a performance is the most important part of any magical experience and is more important than the performance itself. A memorable trick performed badly is better than an unmemorable trick performed well. Why do I say this Well it is a matter of getting maximum impact from your magic. Would you rather amaze one person or fifty people Judging by how envious most... 2008-6-11 11:56:39 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#20578 Memories Are Made Of This Lets start with something you can try out on yourself or on your friends. Below is a list of thirty things. Please read them once or better yet get someone else to read them to you and try and commit as many of them as you can to memory. Do not write anything down and try to avoid using any memory tricks that you may have learnt. You should take no more then about a minute to read the list. Have a break for a minute or two and then on a separate sheet of paper write down as many of the objects as you can from memory without looking back at the list. Ill still be here when you get back from doing that. Memory List Knife Carpet Window Door Chair Shoe Michael Jackson Fork Socks Shirt Thumbtip Book Pants Plate Chair Pen Spoon Pencil Table Cup Death Glass Chair Bed Carpet Scissors Chair Watch Keys Bottle Welcome back. What was the point of all that Well presuming that we want to have our magical performances... 2008-2-27 16:18:46 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#19031 I recently discovered some essays that I wrote a few years back. I dont thing they were widely circulated at the time so rather than let them gather digital dust I thought Id share some of them starting with this one LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE Draculas surviving sunlight thats so unbelievable This is a typical indignant comment from a moviegoer who at the same time is quite willing to accept the existence of an immortal shapeshifting Prince of Darkness who sucks blood through hollow fangs until he is killed by a stake through the heart. What makes the difference between indignation and acceptance Internal logic. As all science fiction writers know people are quite willing to accept any alternative reality as long as two conditions are satisfied The rules that govern the reality are stated including exceptions to the rule. The rules are consistently followed. Thats all there is too it. Lets take Superman as an example. The rules state that he has xray vision and icycold b... 2008-1-23 17:12:02 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#18613 Welcome to my brain.During the tour please try not to touch anything especially if its pulsating and make sure your snood is firmly attached its a protective hairnet since your wondering.Over the coming weeks youll see the output of the creative production line inside my head. It creates tricks pretty regularly.Unfortunately my Quality Control department is sorely understaffed. It consists of me and the occasional spectator I trap after work.So kind Sir or Madam I need your help.Be my quality control. Take my thoughtproducts out into the world. Try them out. Tell me if you and your spectators like them. Or hate them. Or couldnt give a monkeys.Let me know which giants shoulders Im standing on.Point out the tricks best features or critical flaws.Tinker with them make them shinier then tell me how.There are enough bad tricks published in books and videos. With your help Ill only be adding good ones. 2008-1-14 15:50:47 http://www.olivermeech.co.uk/page5.htm#18612 Heres a simple and fun restaurant trick to get us going.EFFECT A spectator squeezes a sugar packet and forms the sugar inside it into a cube.REQUIRED A sugar cube and a spare sugar packet.PREPARATION Using a knife or just your fingers tear a slot in one of the thin ends of the sugar packet. It should only go through one side of the paper and shouldnt extend right to the edges. Pour out and discard the sugar inside. Carefully insert the sugar cube into the sugar packet without extending the tear.Crumple the packet so that the tear ends up hidden inside then finger palm it in your left hand.PERFORMANCE Introduce yourself a group of spectators. Shake each persons hand then state who has the strongest grip and ask them to pass you a sugar packet from the bowl.Display the packet on your right palm then crumple it slightly. Request that they squeeze it tight. You illustrate your request by supposedly taking the sugar packet with your left hand and giving it a gentle squeeze. In reality you o... 2008-1-14 15:48:39